Problema messa in moto - motorino avviamento

[stef66it]

Ciao a tutti,

da qualche tempo quando metto in moto la macchina il motorino di avviamento fa un mezzo giro, si ferma, spegne il quadro e l'auto non parte. Riprovo diverse volte e infine parte magari la primo spunto.
Premetto che la batteria è nuova, cambiata in Audi. Inoltre quando ho acquistato la macchina non lo faceva, negli anni ha cominciato a farlo saltuariamente, nelle ultime settimane frequentemente. E penso che alla fine potrebbe lasciarmi a piedi.

Cosa consigliate di fare ?

Allego VAG:
Sunday,02,December,2018,15:22:28:04550
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86(VirtualBox)
VCDS Version 15.7.0.2
Data version: 20150820
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VIN: WAUZZZ4FX6N114919 License Plate:



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Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 34 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55
56 61 62 69 72

VIN: WAUZZZ4FX6N114919 Mileage: 291030km-180837miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: Malfunction 0010
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 059-907-401-ASB.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 402 L HW: 4F0 907 401 B
Component: 3.0L V6TDI G000AG 0010
Revision: --H01--- Serial number:
Coding: 0011372
Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
VCID: 26A6249751E85D229F42F3-8073

3 Faults Found:
005662 - Glowplug for Cylinder 5 (Q15)
P161E - 001 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 280409 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.10.17
Time: 21:05:14

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 840 /min
Torque: 109.2 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
Voltage: 13.15 V
Duty Cycle: 24.1 %
Temperature: 18.9°C

001025 - EGR System
P0401 - 002 - Insufficient Flow - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 50
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 285516 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.04.05
Time: 18:54:49

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1470 /min
Torque: 97.5 Nm
Speed: 21.3 km/h
Duty Cycle: 80.7 %
Duty Cycle: 20.9 %
Mass Air / Rev.: 399.5 mg/str
Duty Cycle: 36.3 %

000801 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
P0321 - 001 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 290492 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.11.20
Time: 19:22:57

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 21 /min
Torque: 175.5 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
(no units): 4.0
Voltage: 10.49 V
(no units): 19.6
(no units): 369.6

Readiness: 0 1 0 0 0

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
Part No SW: 4F1 910 156 B HW: 09L 927 156 A
Component: AG6 09L 3.0lTDI RdW 0040
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: 4101628
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 23A03D8322DAA80AF85CD2-8077

1 Fault Found:
049448 - No Communications with Parking Brake Control Module
U0128 - 000 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 290081 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.11.08
Time: 08:44:09

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 992 /min
RPM: 960 /min
RPM: 0 /min
(no units): 30.0
(no units): 21.0
Temperature: 17.0°C
T.B. Angle: 0.0°


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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 L HW: 4F0 614 517 L
Component: ESP 8.0 quattro H04 0090
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 0000392
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 2DB4DBBB741E6E7A5EF8A4-8079

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 B HW: 4F0 905 852 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV H08 0200
Revision: 00H08000 Serial number: 10603802092884
Coding: 0000131
Shop #: WSC 50406 001 1048576
VCID: 25A4239B2CEE563A9648CC-8071

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 E
Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS H45 0070

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG H39 0040

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 769 A HW: 4F0 035 769 A
Component: MMI Cockpit H35 0010
Revision: C51100DE Serial number: AUZ6Z3EBCC5821
Coding: 0504425
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 2BB0D5A34A0A604A408C8A-807F

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 E
Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H08 0050

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000277837

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0114.11.050000000100010874ÿ

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010874ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4F0-910-043.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 HW: 4F1 820 043 M
Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH05 0160
Revision: 00000028 Serial number: 00000030074594
Coding: 0000278
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 5B5045635A2AD0CAF0ACBA-800F

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 D HW: 4F0 907 279
Component: ILM Fahrer H15 0190
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 4F0907279
Coding: 0013121
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 2ABED0A745F07942BB9A87-807F

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer AudiC6 H05 0150
Coding: 00062736
Shop #: WSC 02335

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH11 0050
Coding: 00141886
Shop #: WSC 02335

1 Fault Found:
00979 - Lamp for Low Beam; Right (M31)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01111010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 219
Mileage: 262136 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.12.01
Time: 18:36:00


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Address 0E: Media Player 1 Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 769 A HW: 4F0 035 769 A
Component: MMI Cockpit H35 0010
Revision: C51100DE Serial number: AUZ6Z3EBCC5821
Coding: 0504425
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 2BB0D5A34A0A604A408C8A-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 E HW: 4F0 959 655 B
Component: 42 AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0260
Revision: 07H29000 Serial number: 0037LD0B3AB-
Coding: 0013362
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 29BC2FAB40F6725AB2A090-807D

Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332CSME0C333139

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342CSME0C731625+

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME02590C69K

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME052E7701E

Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63734SME024E2E475

Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63834SME074E79235

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 HW: 4F0 953 549 A
Component: Lenksäulenmodul H07 0230
Revision: 00H07000 Serial number: 90054053170355
Coding: 0002042
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: 6626649791689D225FC233-8033

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: Lenkradmodul H07 0090

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 900 A HW: 4F0 920 900 S
Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H11 0630
Revision: 00100000 Serial number: 4R7748AC5
Coding: 2145143
Shop #: WSC 02034 264 11336
VCID: 1ED60C7709B885E2D7121B-804B

1 Fault Found:
00473 - Control Module for Elect. Park/Hand Brake (J540)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 243
Mileage: 290621 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.11.26
Time: 12:40:58


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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4F0-910-468.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 468 A HW: 4F0 907 468 D
Component: Gateway H11 0070
Revision: 11 Serial number: 1300805B1800E4
Coding: 6DFE7BC41B0104
Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
VCID: 27B8299356E2442AA4B4E6-8073

1 Fault Found:
00473 - Control Module for Elect. Park/Hand Brake (J540)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 12
Reset counter: 246
Mileage: 290013 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.10.30
Time: 08:34:42


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Address 34: Level Control Labels: None
Part No SW: 4F0 910 553 HW: 4F0 907 553
Component: J197 LUFTFEDER H15 0040
Serial number: 006280018510
Coding: 0000220
Shop #: WSC 30162 264 94457
VCID: 612C778B7846FA1AAAF078-8035

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E HW: 4F0 959 793 E
Component: TSG FA H12 0080
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: a

Coding: 0001642
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2CB2D6BF4F0467724986B1-8079

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4F0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 G HW: 4F0 907 289 G
Component: Komfortgeraet H22 0170
Revision: 01700022 Serial number: 01008776970000
Coding: 0139909
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 2EB6DCB77918156267F2AB-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4F0-910-223-AS.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 223 C HW: 4F0 035 223
Component: Amp.-ASK H10 0320
Revision: 32S00001 Serial number: 02411050180909
Coding: 0000102
Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
VCID: 1ED60C7709B885E2D7121B-804B

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 280 HW: 4F0 907 280
Component: ILM Beifahrer H10 0080
Revision: Serial number: 00000000102134
Coding: 0001003
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: 5E564C774938C5E297925B-800B

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E HW: 4F0 959 792 E
Component: TSG BF H12 0080
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: yg

Coding: 0001642
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2CB2D6BF4F0467724986B1-8079

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 HW: 4F0 907 801
Component: EPB C63C0030 H03 0030
Revision: C63C0030
Coding: 0000321
Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
VCID: 5D544B7B443EDEFA8E9854-8009

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 E HW: 4F0 907 357 E
Component: AFS 1 H01 0010
Revision: 00000001 Serial number:
Coding: 0000017
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 28BA2AAF5BFC4B52ADAEED-807D

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 B
Component: AFS-Modul links H02 0020

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 B
Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4F0 910 769 A HW: 4F0 035 769 A
Component: MMI Cockpit H35 0010
Revision: C51100DE Serial number: AUZ6Z3EBCC5821
Coding: 0504425
Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
VCID: 2BB0D5A34A0A604A408C8A-807F

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000162589
Shop #: WSC 30048 264 61653
VCID: 23A03D8322DAA80AF85CD2-8077

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 C
Component: von VA0 1511121140
Coding: 344630393135313035432056413031353131313231313430
Shop #: WSC 12345 384 00290

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E HW: 4F0 959 795 E
Component: TSG HL H21 0050
Coding: 0001066
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2EB6DCB77918156267F2AB-807B

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer Labels: 4F0-910-383.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 383 HW: 4F0 907 383
Component: ANHAENGERELEKTR H02 0020
Coding: 0000331
Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
VCID: 622E78877D40E102B3EA6F-8037

1 Fault Found:
02564 - Trailer; Left Tail Lamps (M60)
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00111011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 2
Mileage: 262140 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.12.01
Time: 12:30:00


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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E HW: 4F0 959 794 E
Component: TSG HR H21 0050
Coding: 0001066
Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
VCID: 2EB6DCB77918156267F2AB-807B

No fault code found.

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[gian8p]

magari il motorino di avviamento, nel tempo, si e' usurato (esempio: spazzole, ecc).
oppure si e' accumulata della sporcizia, magari ossido sui morsetti elettrici ecc.
si puo' provare a smontare il motorino, pulire bene, ingrassare il motorino (su una mia vecchia macchina, che faticava a partire, anni fa avevo risolto cosi).

nella tua scansione vedo anche una candeletta di preriscaldo bruciata. col freddo invernale sicuramente il motore fatica di piu ad avviarsi.
vale la pena cambiare la candeletta del cilindro 5.

[Juribellemo]

Lo faceva pure la mia hai una parte sel motorino d’avviamento con l’indotto bruciacchiato ed ogni volta che si ferma la non gira e da quel sintomo tipo batteria scarica tranqui ho fatto come te’ per 2 anni ..


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[federicofiorin]

io avevo letto che non è un problema di motorino elettrico ma un problema di iniettore, praticamente quest' ultimo lascia trafilare in camera di combustione gasolio e si riempe, ovviamente quando alla prima accensione sopratutto dopo 1/2 ore che rimane ferma, il motori non riesce a fare girare il motore.... ci sono molte discussioni, sopratutto sul 3.0 tdi .... occhio che più di qualcuno ha distrutto il motore

[Juribellemo]

A me lo faceva da motore caldo accendendo l’auto il motorino dava meno mezzo giro e si fermava poi fraz di qualche secondo ripartiva da solo accendendo l’auto , ho fatto piu di 300.000 km cosi pero’!!


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